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they could have had the more popular message about cutting deficit spending, right? >> the truth is they would have been better taking the deal that john boehner negotiated with president obama way back when. they missed the moment. i think the real fear is who pays the price. i think the republicans has a point but will pay the price and the real people that will pay the price are the americans, the middle class. it is crazy to put us through this. >> all of the focus on tax cuts but the revenue from increases the taxes on the wealthy will barely make a dment the deficit to say nothing of the trillions of dollars in debt we are talking about. it is a symbolic fight the president is determined to win off of his re-election. >> it is not symbolic. there will be money raised if the tacks for the top 2% are left to expire. let me bring up a point. no democrat and certainly not this president, has said there should be no spending cuts. on the contrary. this president has put on the table quite an extraordinary amount of spending cuts to the sh grin of many democrats, i m
they could have had the more popular message about cutting deficit spending, right? >> the truth is they would have been better taking the deal that john boehner negotiated with president obama way back when. they missed the moment. i think the real fear is who pays the price. i think the republicans has a point but will pay the price and the real people that will pay the price are the americans, the middle class. it is crazy to put us through this. >> all of the focus on tax cuts...
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. >> they could have had a more popular message about cutting deficit spending, right? >> the truth is they would have been a lot better off taking the deal that boehner was negotiating with president obama way back when. it was a better deal all the way around. they missed that moment. but i think the real thing is who pays the price. the people who are going to pay the price are the americans, the middle class. this is crazy. it's nuts to be putting us through this. >> all of the focus on tax cuts. but the revenue from increasing the taxes on the wealthy will barely make a debt in the deficit to say nothing of the trillions in debt we're talking about. is this just a symbolic fight this the president is determined to win off his election? >> it's not symbolic. there will be money raised if the taxes are left to expire. but let me just bring up a point. no democrat and certainly not this president has said there should be no spending cuts. on the contrary this president has put on the table an extraordinary amount of spending cuts to the chagrin of many democrats i mig
. >> they could have had a more popular message about cutting deficit spending, right? >> the truth is they would have been a lot better off taking the deal that boehner was negotiating with president obama way back when. it was a better deal all the way around. they missed that moment. but i think the real thing is who pays the price. the people who are going to pay the price are the americans, the middle class. this is crazy. it's nuts to be putting us through this. >> all...
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. >>> president obama will spend the night aboard airforce 1 making a red-eye trip from hawaii to washington. when he arrives on thursday, it's right back to budget negotiations with the fiscal cliff deadline less than a week away. >> reporter: as the president wrapped up his vacation, federal workers trickled back into the nation's capital. the only people who can avert the fiscal cliff, members of the house and senate, have not returned. and in just six days, a 2% payroll tax is set to expire, along with the bush-era tax cuts, shrinking the average worker's paycheck in 2013 by about $1,500. long-term unemployment benefits for about 2 million jobless americans are also set to expire, and $110 billion worth of spending cuts to domestic and defense programs will kick in, forcing layoffs in the public and private sector. if congress doesn't act, all the cuts and new taxes will squish the economy back into a mild recession by mid-2013. the impact of some of these new cuts and taxes wouldn't be felt immediately on january 1st because the irs and other agencies didn't expect it to come to this. i
. >>> president obama will spend the night aboard airforce 1 making a red-eye trip from hawaii to washington. when he arrives on thursday, it's right back to budget negotiations with the fiscal cliff deadline less than a week away. >> reporter: as the president wrapped up his vacation, federal workers trickled back into the nation's capital. the only people who can avert the fiscal cliff, members of the house and senate, have not returned. and in just six days, a 2% payroll tax...
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we're spending way too much money. as your previous guest was just talking about, we're hitting the debt ceiling, 16 trillion, they want to increase it to 18 trillion. by 2022, it will be 25 trillion the at some point this all comes crashing down. >> we already had the debt ceiling issue during the summer of 2011 being taken to the brink of having our credit ratings. based on the fact that neither side could politically come together. that was all in an effort to try to discredit the president so that they could get him out come november of 2012. now, that doesn't happen. the president has a wide mandate to be back in the hoff. why does the tea party not get that? >> you know obama ran on the fact that he would raise taxes. >>> more democrats were votes in. tea party members lost seats in this election. >> liberals lost seats, too. that's what happens every election. if there had been a great groundswell of effort that we have to raise taxes, we have to implement this huge liberal big spending agenda john boehner would
we're spending way too much money. as your previous guest was just talking about, we're hitting the debt ceiling, 16 trillion, they want to increase it to 18 trillion. by 2022, it will be 25 trillion the at some point this all comes crashing down. >> we already had the debt ceiling issue during the summer of 2011 being taken to the brink of having our credit ratings. based on the fact that neither side could politically come together. that was all in an effort to try to discredit the...
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heather: simon, response to the part about spending cuts, and what is spending cuts is the obama administration talking about, guaranteed spending cuts? >> they already accepted a trillion dollars in domestic spending cuts in next 10 years. they put on the table additional cuts in medicare and social security not as much as republicans want but clearly they have moved on that. and i also think there will be substantial defense cuts, if we want to make a dent in the deficit. i mean this is the choice that is going to be in front of us. if, we have to do four things if we want to reduce the deficit. we have to get more revenue, we have to cut domestic spending, we have to trim and reform the health care programs in particular of medicare and medicaid and we have to cut defense. if we do all four of those things we can make significant down payment getting deficit under control. if we do some of them, the numbers are not there enough to make as much progress as we want. this is where mark and i agree. over next six to nine months we could see substantial progress towards smart fiscal policy in the
heather: simon, response to the part about spending cuts, and what is spending cuts is the obama administration talking about, guaranteed spending cuts? >> they already accepted a trillion dollars in domestic spending cuts in next 10 years. they put on the table additional cuts in medicare and social security not as much as republicans want but clearly they have moved on that. and i also think there will be substantial defense cuts, if we want to make a dent in the deficit. i mean this is...
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they are locked in a showdown over taxes and spending and the average family is caught in the middle. in washington, craig boswell, fox news. >> doug: neil abercrombie is minutes away to saying who will fill the seat by the passing of inoue. >>> 2012 brought more fighting and bloodshed to syria. will 2013 be different? it will be after the short brbrbrbrbrbrbr >>> in the name of god, i major general commander of the military police in syria declare my defection from the regime to army and joining the people's revolution for the following reasons -- >> the army derailed from the basic mission of protecting the people and it has become a game for killing and destruction. >> doug: denouncing his defection, as the rebels continue to gain ground. we are looking at death toll more than a year of 44,000 people. terrible i strosties from both sides -- atrocities from both sides. on top of that, syria's stampest ally russia appears to be getting a little bit of cold feet in relationship there. russian foreign minister labrovov announcing to reporters that russia is not inviting assad to come h
they are locked in a showdown over taxes and spending and the average family is caught in the middle. in washington, craig boswell, fox news. >> doug: neil abercrombie is minutes away to saying who will fill the seat by the passing of inoue. >>> 2012 brought more fighting and bloodshed to syria. will 2013 be different? it will be after the short brbrbrbrbrbrbr >>> in the name of god, i major general commander of the military police in syria declare my defection from the...
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if you look two years ago at the ratio obama was proposing spending cuts versus revenue. it was four to one. now it's one to one. >> you have that $1 trillion already passed. >> you do. but i think the credit the tea party gets for shifting that debate wag overblown. >> but it was deficit reduction versus short-term spending at the start of 2010. and it immediately moved to deficit reduction and how to do it. and that was a very fundamental, important shift in the conversation. >> we have to go, but -- we have to go, but i heard that after the show, sam stein will be on twiner. you can be there, too. >> we can get together. >> we have another important item, though, which is the biggest hurdle arguably to president obama's second term agenda. that's something you're probably never going to hear about, literally. people think of the filibuster as a talk athon to stop action in the senate. but nowadays it has been attacked with a constant extreme of silent filibusters. up next, the talking filibuster ahead live. >>> time for the your business preer oes weeks. amber and mark
if you look two years ago at the ratio obama was proposing spending cuts versus revenue. it was four to one. now it's one to one. >> you have that $1 trillion already passed. >> you do. but i think the credit the tea party gets for shifting that debate wag overblown. >> but it was deficit reduction versus short-term spending at the start of 2010. and it immediately moved to deficit reduction and how to do it. and that was a very fundamental, important shift in the...
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obama's spending being higher than the bush years. that is not true. the deficit which increases our debt grew so much under obama because he put both wars into the budget. george bush kept him out of the budget -- them out of the budget. was not paying for them, so things looked good. in the first few years of the obama administration, he created more jobs than george bush did in eight years. was theush's, at surpluses are for spending. -- comment was the surpluses are for spending. the put us in massive debt, left it on obama. -- he put us in massive debt, left it on obama. these people sit here and watch these idiots on tv say these things are not true. and then they go and push based on what they're hearing instead of looking into the fact of the matter. host: mr. forbes? guest: i did make mention that spending did increased dramatically under george bush. no matter how you account for the wars, domestic spending under president obama increased very substantially to the point that it is the highest it has been without a world war. theses why we're
obama's spending being higher than the bush years. that is not true. the deficit which increases our debt grew so much under obama because he put both wars into the budget. george bush kept him out of the budget -- them out of the budget. was not paying for them, so things looked good. in the first few years of the obama administration, he created more jobs than george bush did in eight years. was theush's, at surpluses are for spending. -- comment was the surpluses are for spending. the put us...
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>> what the. >> rob:s are concerned with most is this out-of-control spending. your point about tax increases, what we are looking at now, it is like a mortal wound to our chest. we have blood gushing out of our chest and president obama and the democrats come along and put a band-aid on our forehead, and we continue to have problems coming out of a different area, and they're not addressing the real problem. we need to attack the spending. if we give the president every tax increase that he wants, we have a trial dollar debt every year. >> and the president has addressed that. no one is saying that there should be no spending cuts. he has done that. >> david? >> ultimately, listen, guys, we've got to find a bridge to get across. >> absolutely. >> what are the ways that we can agree on that will help us through that. i would worry if we spend the next three or four days of a time of semi crisis for the country getting back in our fox holes and shoot across at each other. we have to come out of the fox holes. you know our international reputation is going to suff
>> what the. >> rob:s are concerned with most is this out-of-control spending. your point about tax increases, what we are looking at now, it is like a mortal wound to our chest. we have blood gushing out of our chest and president obama and the democrats come along and put a band-aid on our forehead, and we continue to have problems coming out of a different area, and they're not addressing the real problem. we need to attack the spending. if we give the president every tax...
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more than just about obama and romney, it was about socialism and capitalism, about spending and cutting, about what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now. >> don't miss our "top 10 of 2012" special. cnn revisits the biggest stories of the year in money, crime, politics, and even scandals. that's cnn, sunday night, 8:00 eastern. >>> happening now, members of congress are called back to work with time running out to avoid the fiscal cliff. we'll meet one man who's reaching into his own pockets to help america ease its enormous debt. and we're learning how north korea deceived the world, to launch a rocket with the ability to strike the u.s. wolf blitzer is off. i'm candy crowley. you're in "the situation room." >>> on the surface, you might think there's new movement toward avoiding the fiscal cliff that starts making an impact just five
more than just about obama and romney, it was about socialism and capitalism, about spending and cutting, about what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now. >> don't miss our "top 10 of 2012" special. cnn revisits the...
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he's hoping to avert deepening spending cuts and higher taxes. both parties appear to be daring eacher to let the year end without a deal. treasury secretary tim geithner says he will be taking steps tomorrow to prevent the government from hitting its borrowing limit on monday. >>> toyota announced a billion dollar settlement over acceleration problems and will install a brake override system and compensate owners for the alleged reduced value of their cars and trucks. >>> for what's trending today, a quick look at what has you talking online. he's only rock'n roll, but she likes him. actress kate winslet married british tycoon. and singer janet jackson's engagement to her bit of of two years, a businessman, set for a wedding in the spring in qatar. >>> if you shout max in a dog park, the top female and male dog names followed by buddy. and they're in and old classics like rover are out. good morning. center traffic guy bob hurt zog is going viral with his dance antics. >> you can't go that way. ♪ ♪ try to get to work on time i'm just the man
he's hoping to avert deepening spending cuts and higher taxes. both parties appear to be daring eacher to let the year end without a deal. treasury secretary tim geithner says he will be taking steps tomorrow to prevent the government from hitting its borrowing limit on monday. >>> toyota announced a billion dollar settlement over acceleration problems and will install a brake override system and compensate owners for the alleged reduced value of their cars and trucks. >>> for...
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have been -- >> we're going to go now to andrews air force base with air force one burning president obama back. he is in route to the white house today after celebrating christmas in hawaii with his family. he is returning early from his holiday to address to andrews air issues of the fiscal cliff. speaker boehner said that the senate must act first. senators are in session right now. there is the plane landing. this is live coverage on c-span. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> and we have been watching the president's return to join based andrews. andrew to the white house now after celebrating -- he is on his way to the white house doctor celebrating christmas in hawaii with his family. he is traveling with the latest appointed senator to replace daniel inouye. he will be sworn in today in the senate. the president has returned early from his christmas vacation to work on avoiding the fiscal cliff, a series of tax increases and spending cuts set to take effect on january 1st. last night, the president call
have been -- >> we're going to go now to andrews air force base with air force one burning president obama back. he is in route to the white house today after celebrating christmas in hawaii with his family. he is returning early from his holiday to address to andrews air issues of the fiscal cliff. speaker boehner said that the senate must act first. senators are in session right now. there is the plane landing. this is live coverage on c-span. [captioning performed by national...
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. >> there are no serious cuts from president obama. there is serious effort at reforming. medicare and medicare. a lot of people don't say social security is enment. it is an insurance program. but it is enormous amount of money flowing out than in and it is getting worse after the baby boomers retire. without reform, you hit a debt crisis guarantee. >> kelly: or guaranteed that crisis in a couple of days new yearee a eve and automatic spending cuts go into affect and that will affect social security that is also a problem that we have seen over the yearrs. we are spending so much money for this and there is no reform. >> it is a billion a week more going out than coming in x. it gets worse because baby boomers are retiring, i don't know how many it is. but there is a massive incrose in the retirement population. that is unfunded. >> clayton: we sound shocked but look at the postoffice. how much money we keep the postal unions and how much of a deficit. >> worry me this question. can you get elected if you say i am going to cut this an
. >> there are no serious cuts from president obama. there is serious effort at reforming. medicare and medicare. a lot of people don't say social security is enment. it is an insurance program. but it is enormous amount of money flowing out than in and it is getting worse after the baby boomers retire. without reform, you hit a debt crisis guarantee. >> kelly: or guaranteed that crisis in a couple of days new yearee a eve and automatic spending cuts go into affect and that will...